{"id":15008,"date":"2025-09-11T17:31:34","date_gmt":"2025-09-11T22:31:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.voicesforvaccines.org\/?post_type=jtf_topics&#038;p=15008"},"modified":"2025-09-27T17:42:32","modified_gmt":"2025-09-27T22:42:32","slug":"did-sanitation-and-nutrition-do-more-than-vaccines","status":"publish","type":"jtf_topics","link":"https:\/\/www.voicesforvaccines.org\/es\/jtf_topics\/did-sanitation-and-nutrition-do-more-than-vaccines\/","title":{"rendered":"Did sanitation and nutrition do more than vaccines?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wpb-content-wrapper\">[vc_row source=&#8221;&#8221; text=&#8221;Clinical Trials&#8221; font_container=&#8221;tag:h2|text_align:left&#8221; use_theme_fonts=&#8221;yes&#8221; google_fonts=&#8221;font_family:Abril%20Fatface%3Aregular|font_style:400%20regular%3A400%3Anormal&#8221; link=&#8221;&#8221; css=&#8221;.vc_custom_1708910874436{border-top-width: 1px !important;border-right-width: 1px !important;border-bottom-width: 1px !important;border-left-width: 1px !important;}&#8221;][vc_column][vc_row_inner][vc_column_inner][vc_custom_heading text=&#8221;The Claim:&#8221; font_container=&#8221;tag:h3|text_align:left&#8221; use_theme_fonts=&#8221;yes&#8221;][vc_column_text css=&#8221;&#8221;]In an episode of his\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/TheChiefNerd\/status\/1964470620777042003\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">podcast<\/a>, Joe Rogan discusses many issues that we have covered in the past, including the case that sanitation and nutrition are responsible for the decline in diseases, not vaccines.[\/vc_column_text][\/vc_column_inner][\/vc_row_inner][vc_row_inner][vc_column_inner][vc_custom_heading text=&#8221;The Facts:&#8221; font_container=&#8221;tag:h3|text_align:left&#8221; use_theme_fonts=&#8221;yes&#8221;][vc_column_text css=&#8221;&#8221;]Rogan got his ideas from\u00a0Suzanne Humphries, a doctor with a background in nephrology (kidney medicine).<\/p>\n<p>Humphries claims it\u2019s not a virus but toxins like DDT and arsenic that cause\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.voicesforvaccines.org\/the-emotional-toll-of-polio\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/voicesforvaccines.us6.list-manage.com\/track\/click?u%3De17a65409cd8f13ba7e58cc97%26id%3D692bb53025%26e%3Dfc0735be13&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1746052417839000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3OfdSb_FS4itxaH0eXGRgS\">polio<\/a>. But scientists have\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/virology.ws\/2008\/12\/19\/100th-anniversary-of-the-isolation-of-poliovirus\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/voicesforvaccines.us6.list-manage.com\/track\/click?u%3De17a65409cd8f13ba7e58cc97%26id%3D0e720f2fec%26e%3Dfc0735be13&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1746052417839000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3Dm4mls2yUfk_l1s4xU8yR\">isolated<\/a>\u00a0the poliovirus from the bodies of sick people many times. They also did experiments where they\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/uen.pressbooks.pub\/ehsl\/chapter\/identifying-polio\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/voicesforvaccines.us6.list-manage.com\/track\/click?u%3De17a65409cd8f13ba7e58cc97%26id%3D3c7358348b%26e%3Dfc0735be13&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1746052417839000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0hxgZxOd_7b52PzLIUU_8G\">gave the virus to monkeys<\/a>, which then got the same kind of paralysis as people. So we know that poliovirus has caused polio in the past and the present.<\/p>\n<p>She says that smallpox was eradicated because of better sanitation. But for that to be true, you would have to believe two things:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Better sanitation can stop a virus that spreads through the air<\/li>\n<li>Every country in the world has good enough sanitation.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>Since the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nfid.org\/the-triumph-of-science-the-incredible-story-of-smallpox-eradication\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/voicesforvaccines.us6.list-manage.com\/track\/click?u%3De17a65409cd8f13ba7e58cc97%26id%3D637e78b6f5%26e%3Dfc0735be13&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1746052417839000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1Y2FVV16yesdImuXuz4-Nf\">worldwide effort<\/a>\u00a0to get rid of smallpox, there hasn\u2019t been a single case anywhere, which shows that vaccines and not just sanitation stopped it.<\/p>\n<p>Rogan discusses some graphs showing polio rates going down before the vaccine was introduced, but he completely misunderstands\u00a0the\u00a0graphs. The\u00a0graphs, found\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/vaclib.org\/sites\/debate\/web1.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/voicesforvaccines.us6.list-manage.com\/track\/click?u%3De17a65409cd8f13ba7e58cc97%26id%3D88b039a8f8%26e%3Dfc0735be13&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1729878265970000&amp;usg=AOvVaw2g7PnBy7ly9IZ_b2_HO6cF\">here<\/a>,\u00a0show that\u00a0<em>deaths<\/em>\u00a0had already drastically fallen before vaccines.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/cdn.britannica.com\/04\/20904-050-AEC7F1A6\/mass-vaccination-programs-diphtheria-polio-population-diseases-1970.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/voicesforvaccines.us6.list-manage.com\/track\/click?u%3De17a65409cd8f13ba7e58cc97%26id%3Ddde296f492%26e%3Dfc0735be13&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1729878265970000&amp;usg=AOvVaw2OwlGNe8RIwELX_zkgxFab\">Cases<\/a>, on\u00a0the\u00a0other hand, didn\u2019t fall until vaccines were introduced.<\/p>\n<p>And sanitation made polio worse.\u00a0Before\u00a0the\u00a01900s, most kids were exposed to polio as babies, which helped them build natural immunity. Better sanitation from\u00a0the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/articles\/PMC4108111\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/voicesforvaccines.us6.list-manage.com\/track\/click?u%3De17a65409cd8f13ba7e58cc97%26id%3Dcd78f71b24%26e%3Dfc0735be13&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1729878265970000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3g7Fu_y-0iY5jj_bUPc-Oj\">Industrial Revolution<\/a>\u00a0improved health but also reduced exposure to\u00a0the\u00a0virus, leading to polio outbreaks.<\/p>\n<p>The other concerning claims about\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.voicesforvaccines.org\/jtf_topics\/do-babies-need-this-vaccine-at-birth\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Hep B<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.voicesforvaccines.org\/jtf_topics\/how-strong-is-the-evidence-refuting-the-autism-myth\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">autism<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.voicesforvaccines.org\/jtf_topics\/why-arent-they-doing-vaxxed-vs-unvaxxed-studies\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">health outcomes<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.voicesforvaccines.org\/jtf_topics\/why-arent-vaccines-tested-against-placebos\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">placebos<\/a>, and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.voicesforvaccines.org\/jtf_topics\/is-tetanus-actually-a-risk\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">tetanus<\/a>\u00a0are addressed on our website.[\/vc_column_text][\/vc_column_inner][\/vc_row_inner][\/vc_column][\/vc_row]\n<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Joe Rogan claims sanitation, not vaccines, stopped disease\u2014but the data say otherwise. Here\u2019s why polio, smallpox, and other illnesses fell after vaccination.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"parent":0,"template":"","jtf_topic_subjects":[199,218],"class_list":["post-15008","jtf_topics","type-jtf_topics","status-publish","hentry","jtf_topic_subjects-childhood-vaccines","jtf_topic_subjects-vaccine-safety","entry","no-media"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.voicesforvaccines.org\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/jtf_topics\/15008","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.voicesforvaccines.org\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/jtf_topics"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.voicesforvaccines.org\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/jtf_topics"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/www.voicesforvaccines.org\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/jtf_topics\/15008\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":15014,"href":"https:\/\/www.voicesforvaccines.org\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/jtf_topics\/15008\/revisions\/15014"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.voicesforvaccines.org\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=15008"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"jtf_topic_subjects","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.voicesforvaccines.org\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/jtf_topic_subjects?post=15008"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}