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Episode 50: Switching Sides on Vaccines
Don’t worry! We aren’t switching sides. Heather Simpson, former anti-vaccine influencer, already switched sides. She took a look at the science and decided she needed to vaccinate herself and her daughter.
This is the audio from a previous Facebook Live event. If you prefer to watch with your eyes and ears, go here.
Episode 49: The Other Dr. Sears on Vaccines
Dr. Peter Sears is the not-famous brother of Dr. Jim and Dr. Bob Sears and a family physician. He is also an strong advocate for on-time immunization, even as his brother Bob is perceived as having close ties with the anti-vaccine world. We invited Dr. Peter to the podcast to talk about alternative schedules, ingredient fears, and vaccine mandates.
Don’t forget to check out our FB chat with Heather Simpson, former anti-vaccine influencer.
Episode 48: Dr. Plotkin on COVID-19 Vaccines and the Path Forward
Millions of people have received a COVID-19 vaccine, which gives us a lot of information about the safety of these vaccines. We asked Dr. Stanley Plotkin, inventor of the rubella vaccine and co-inventor of a rotavirus vaccine, to join us to answer our questions and to make some predictions.
Episode 47: Dr. Paul Offit on the New COVID-19 Vaccines
It’s here! The COVID-19 vaccine is going into people’s arms as you read the letters in these show notes. Everyone we know has said, “If Paul Offit says it’s safe to get the vaccine, I will get it.” So we had him on our podcast and asked him that and so much more.
Also, check out Tara Haelle’s piece answering any COVID-19 vaccine question you could possible ask.
Episode 46: Tracking the Anti-Vaccine Movement
The anti-vaccine movement is as old as vaccines, but it has been evolving recently to new leaders who emphasize the autism disinformation campaign less and their own big media empires more. We invited Vaccinate Your Family‘s Erica DeWald to our podcast to discuss where the modern anti-vaccine movement came from and where they are going.
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Episode 45: Vaccinate the Heartland!
On October 15, 2020, folks from across the Midwest (and the U.S.) gathered on Zoom to celebrate the good immunization does in the Heartland. We had nearly 20 speakers give quick testimonials about vaccines, from how they protect immunocompromised people to how VPDs have affected their lives. We also invited a U.S. Senator, an Ohio state senator, an IL state representative, and a former White House occupant on to speak to us.
If you would like to watch the full video, it is available here.
Vaccinate the Family’s Midwestern action page.
Episode 44: I Fought the (Anti-Vaccine) Law
Vaccine science is now fairly widely understood in the media and the general public, so where does someone wanting to spread disinformation about vaccines turn? To court. We invited UC Hastings professor of law, Dorit Reiss, to our show to discuss what sorts of lawsuits are being filed, why they are being filed, and how these lawsuits are connected to harassment (both legal and petty) of pro-vaccine advocates. We also discuss a possible emerging medical specialty: time travel vaccines.
Episode 43: Can I Quote You On That?
In this episode celebrating National Immunization Awareness Month, Karen talks to loyal listener Amy and then quizzes her to see if she can spot a fake quote about vaccines versus a real one.
Karen and Nathan also talk about de-platforming, especially the de-platforming of a certain disease from an entire continent!
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Episode 42: The Big Conspiracy
Often, when we scratch beneath the surface of someone who is anti-vaccine, we find conspiracy theories abound. We are also seeing them grow during the time of COVID. Why are anti-vaxxers prone to conspiratorial thinking and what can we do to turn people toward rational thought, instead?
In this episode, Karen and Nathan discuss these very matters with Dr. Stephan Lewandowski, an expert on the matter from the University of Bristol.
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Links from the episode:
- How Excited Should We Be About Coronavirus Vaccine Progress?
- The Conspiracy Singularity Has Arrived
- Conspiracy Theory Handbook
- Debunking Handbook
Episode 41: Can We Get Back to Routine Vaccines? Please?
While the world is consumed with justifiable fears of COVID-19, measles, polio, and even diphtheria are finding pathways to resurgence. What is going on with those routine childhood vaccines? Are they really important right now? Karen and Nathan discuss this critical topic and what you can do to make sure we are preventing multiple health crises at once. Remember: we rely on each other.
Links from the show:
- SIDS rates
- Influenza vaccine hesitancy
- Slowing Coronavirus is Speeding Spread of Other Diseases
- Anti-vaxxers spread fear over future coronavirus vaccine
Episode 40: COVID19 Vaccines with Dr. Stanley Plotkin
The world’s vaccinologists are racing against time to find a safe, effective vaccine to protect against SARS-CoV-2. We talked to renowned vaccinologist, Dr. Stanley Potkin, about how vaccines are typically developed and what is being done now to make the one vaccine the world desperately wants now.
Episode 39: How to Talk COVID-19
A lot of misinformation and disinformation is circulating concerning COVID-19, and people are unsure how to talk to others about the pandemic.
We invited journalist Tara Haelle to talk to us about how to get the best information to your family and friends.
See Tara’s Forbes site for more information.
Episode 38: Coronavirus and the Cervaza for Disease Control
No vaccine for coronavirus exists (yet?), but learning about this newest emerging disease and watching how the epidemic is handled can teach us a lot about public health strategies that include vaccines. So we invited Dr. Angela Rasmussen, a virologist at Columbia University, on to talk about coronavirus.
Episode 37: HPV Vaccine Champion Border Battle
What happens when you bring to HPV Vaccine is Cancer Prevention champions together? A great conversation about how to encourage parents to start and complete the HPV vaccine series in order to prevent six forms of cancer. For this episode, we brought Minnesota champion Dr. Andrea Singh to talk to Karen and Nathan–the Iowa HPV Vaccine is Cancer Prevention Champion.
Episode 36: Madi’s Influenza Story
Shelle Allen’s healthy, happy daughter, Madi, was 12 years old when she asked to be picked up from a birthday party. They never imagined that what would follow would be a months-long battle with influenza. We invited Shelle, who is the President of Families Fighting Flu, on our podcast to tell Madi’s story.
Nathan and Karen also discussed rebranding anti-vaxxers and the measles outbreak in Samoa.
Episode 35: Alternative Vaccine Schedules w/ Dr. Offit
More frequently than outright refusing vaccines, parents sometimes ask doctors to give vaccines at a slower rate or with more visits than the CDC recommends. What is behind these requests, and are these “alternative schedules” a good idea? We asked Dr. Paul Offit to explain the science behind vaccine schedules and the dangers of delaying vaccines.
Episode 34: Vaccine Hesitancy (recorded live in Seattle)
Nathan and Karen traveled to Seattle for the Washington State Immunization Summit to talk to attendees about vaccine hesitancy! This is the episode we have been waiting to do!
Episode 33: California’s Vaccine Legislator
Dr. Richard Pan has been a champion for community immunity his entire career, from his beginnings as a resident in Pittsburgh to his work in the California legislation to eliminate non-medical vaccine exemptions. We invited him to the show to give us the broad perspective of the work he has done and the work we all need to do.
Episode 32.4: The Trivia Show!
Melody Butler, of Nurses Who Vaccinate fame, stopped by our studio to challenge Nathan to a game of Vaccine Trivia!
Thank you to our friends at Vaccine Education Center at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia for the questions. Play for yourself at their website.
Episode 32.3: Vaccines, Baseball, and DaVinci! NIAM 2019
Continuing with our NIAM2019 GAME SHOW theme, we invited Keith Law to play Offit, Wakefield, or Dan Brown.
Keith Law is an ESPN contributor, baseball expert, author, and vaccine enthusiast, making him the perfect person to compete against Nathan in identifying the author of various book excerpts.
Episode 32.2: Troll or Be Trolled! NIAM 2019
You first met him on Facebook when he pretended to be customer service for Large Retail Store. Because he has also satirized the world’s most notorious anti vaccine activists, we invited Ben Palmer to play Troll or Be Trolled in celebration of National Immunization Awareness Month. But the only trolling we do is trolling VPDs with our vaccines.
Most of the Tweets can be found at the @Voices4Vaccines handle.
Episode 32.1: Stop the Presses! NIAM 2019
August is the month every year that the U.S. celebrates the good work vaccines do in our community. For NIAM 2019, we have decided to celebrate with Game Show Month!
Our first game is Fact Checker. We invited health journalist Tara Haelle (author of Vaccination Investigation and The Informed Parent) aboard to listen to a media interview with a self-proclaimed vaccine expert rebutting Jon Oliver.
Episode 31: Rotary’s Polio Mission
Polio is *this close* to being eradicated, so we invited Rotary International‘s Carol Pandak to the show to discuss their mission to end polio.
In addition, Nathan and Karen discuss Jessica Biel and SB 276 as well as Karen’s Big ACIP adventure, and other methods anti-vaccine activists use to legitimize their cause.
Episode 30: Measles with Dr. Paul Offit
In this episode, Karen and Nathan discuss the latest measles outbreaks with Dr. Paul Offit. He takes us through how these outbreaks behave, what causes them, measles elimination, what measles is actually like, and how we can all work together to prevent future outbreaks.
Episode 29: National Infant Immunization Week & Measles Outbreaks
In this special NIIW mini-episode, Karen talks to a different Dr. Nathan (Dr. Chomilo) about the 25th anniversary of National Infant Immunization Rates and how the reasons for not vaccinating have changed over the years. They also discuss current measles outbreaks.
Episode 28: Ethan Lindenberger, the Internet, and Teen Advocacy
A few months ago, Ethan Linenberger was just a teenager with a Reddit account. He used that account to find out how to get himself vaccinated, and now he is one of the youngest–and smartest–vaccine advocates around. We talked to him about vaccines, social media, and how teens can engage in this space.
Find Ethan at his website to learn more about what he has done.
Episode 27: Vaccine Updates from ACIP and HELP
Vaccine buzz is buzzier lately, with a new, young advocate traveling to Washington, D.C. to testify about why he got vaccinated after his mother had refused to vaccinate him and with anti-vaccine activists trying to “inundate” the ACIP meeting at the CDC. We will tackle those topics and talk to three special guests about ACIP updates. L.J. Tan discusses with us the latest flu data, Lori Boyle talks about why nurses need to represent, and Amy Pisani talks HPV and PCV.
Episode 26: Vaccine Court, Autism, and a New Conspiracy Theory
It’s been more than a decade since a U.S. court, in an omnibus proceeding, found that vaccines do not cause autism, but that finding has sparked a new conspiracy theory, thanks in part to Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. We invited vaccine law expert Dorit Reiss to our show to discuss with her how this new conspiracy theory does not hold up to scrutiny.
Episode 25: HPV Vaccines and How We Decide
The HPV Vaccine seems to have a special place–not as a cancer-preventing tool but as something people sometimes fear. But when the science is clear that this vaccine is safe and needed, why do some refuse it?
For answers, we talk to Dr. Noel Brewer, a health behavior expert and chair of the National HPV Vaccination Roundtable.
Links from the episode:
Guardian Facebook article
Episode 24: The One About Influenza w/ Dr. LJ Tan
Do you get your flu shot? Does everyone you know get one, too? We invited Dr. LJ Tan to talk to us about last year’s flu season, this year’s flu forecast, flu vaccine uptake, and Riverdale.
Episode 23: Vaccines Did Not Cause Rachel’s Autism
Dr. Peter Hotez is a pediatrician, a vaccinologist, and a parent of Rachel, who is autistic. His new book, Vaccines Did Not Cause Rachel’s Autism, leaves no wiggle room for doubt about whether or not he embraces scientific consensus concerning vaccines.
In this episode, we talked to Dr. Hotez about his book, about his daughter, about why vaccines cannot cause autism, and about the anti-vaccine movement.
We ask all of our listeners to purchase this book and then donate it to their pediatrician’s office!
Episode 22: Measles Eradication and Elimination
If measles has been eliminated from North America, what’s up with these outbreaks? Is it even possible to get rid of it globally and for good? We invited CDC’s Dr. Mark Papania and Dr. Manisha Patel to answer all of our measles eradication questions.
This episode was sponsored by the Task Force for Global Health in honor of Dr. Samuel Katz and Dr. Walter Orenstein, both of whom have played critical roles in eliminating measles.
Episode 21: Anti-Vaccine Nurses
A PICU nurse contemplates swabbing a measles patients to infect her own child. A nurse practitioner makes a video about how to school pediatricians on vaccines. What is a pro-vaccine advocate to do? We invited Nurses Who Vaccinate’s Melody Butler to discuss all things anti-vaccine nurses.
Episode 20.4: Superman, Cancer, and Vaccines
At age 44, Jason Mendolsohn was diagnosed with Stage IV HPV throat cancer, and now he’s on a mission to convince families to prevent this cancer in their children through immunization.
Episode 20.3: Young Superheroes Protect Herd Immunity (w/Ethan Posard)
Please note: This episode is appropriate for kids of all ages, and we invite everyone to listen.
We don’t give young people enough credit. Being brave and getting their vaccines does a lot of good in the world, so says this week’s guest. Ethan Posard has a film credit and has published a book–and he’s only 17. Meet vaccine advocacy’s most influential young hero in this week’s episode about teens, kids, vaccines, and advocacy.
Episode 20.2: Protecting Our Littles (w/Dr. Bob Jacobson)
New parents have many questions about vaccines. What is the best way to answer those questions and to handle potential vaccine concerns? We talked to Mayo Clinic’s Dr. Bob Jacobson and tapped into his wealth of experience about all things vaccines before age two!
Episode 20.1: All the Pregnant Ladies (w/Heidi Murkoff)
It’s National Immunization Awareness Month, week 1. We are focused on vaccines during pregnancies, the two-for-one that protects both mom and baby.
To talk about this important topic, we invited What to Expect’s Heidi Murkoff to share her expertise and give us all advice about how to reach women during pregnancy and encourage immunization.
Episode 19: Hashtag Vaccines–The Social Media Episode
Echo chambers, Dunning-Kruger, misinformation, and conspiracy theories. These bad parts of social media are what pro-vaccine advocates battle daily and are the subject of this episode. Nathan and Karen talk to Dr. Jen Golbeck, director of the Social Intelligence Lab at the University of Maryland, College Park. (Plus, hear our new intro!)
Episode 18: Advocacy We Believe In with People We Like
Karen traveled to Atlanta for the National Immunization Conference and met many amazing people, a few of whom are featured in this episode. Nathan talks about the great pro-vaccine advocates we know, and they both discuss why we all advocate and what we can do to create more vaccine confidence.
This episode is sponsored by the Vaccine Education Center at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia: vaccine.chop.edu/parents
Episode 17: Mamas, don’t let your babies miss NIIW
Nathan and Karen talk to Every Child By Two’s Amy Pisani about how the immunization challenges have changed over the decades and what challenges we face in our work together combatting vaccine-preventable diseases.
Episode 16: What about the dads?
So much of vaccine advocacy is aimed at mothers, but where are the dads in all of this? To find out, Nathan and Karen talked to Dean Masello, writer, comedian, and SAHD. Find him at wokedad.com.
This episode was made possible by a generous donation from Immunization Action Coalition: www.immunize.org.
Episode 15: Parenthetical Science
Karen and Nathan host Dr. Chad Hayes and Natalie Newell from the Parenthetical Science podcast for a rousing discussion about how parenting is harder than it needs to be and how people fall into the neverending woo rabbit hole.
Episode 14: Ask Dr. Offit
Nathan and Karen talk to Dr. Paul Offit–head of infectious diseases at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia and all around good guy. Dr. Offit took the time to answer questions our listeners submitted online, covering topics from influenza to pertussis to advocacy.
Episode 13: HPV Cancers, Vaccines, and Cervivors
It’s Cervical Cancer Awareness Month! In this episode, Nathan and Karen talk to Tamika Felder about her battle with HPV-caused cervical cancer and her organization, Cervivor.
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Bonus Episode: Live at NFID
In November, Nathan and Karen traveled to Bethesda, MD to record a live episode at NFID’s Vaccinology Course. They discussed vaccine messaging with the good people there, and now, as a holiday treat, are sharing it with you.
Watch for more great VAX TALK episodes in 2018, and support our mission.
This episode was made possible through the sponsorship of NFID. Thank you, NFID!
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